Updates - CTG

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Updates - CTG

Unread postby Lucy » Fri Feb 29, 2008 2:46 pm

Book Update - Art

LSH in MS wrote:Revised verson of God and the history of art? what's different?

Are there major differences in the revised version of GATHOA? I know it's sepearated into 2 volumes instead of one. Any major changes?

Does MFW sell the revised version?

MFW sells the revised edtion. The change was primarily to the 2 volume format. There were no major changes made in the content.

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Unread postby kellybell » Fri Feb 29, 2008 4:55 pm

There are a few wording changes that we've noticed. My dd's have the older one-volume comb-bound books and my ds has the two-volume paper-back. All we've noticed are some wording changes here or there to make things clearer.
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The Children's Homer - Cover Change

Unread postby cbollin » Thu Sep 18, 2008 11:38 pm

Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 8:19 pm
About the 2 books, in the "group picture" of the CTG package, the older picture cover of The Children's Homer is used in the group photo while in the individual pictures of that same book, the newer cover picture is used. Those are the same book with just an updated picture.
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Unread postby Julie in MN » Thu Sep 18, 2008 11:39 pm

Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 10:43 pm
As for the book covers, I had two copies, one with each cover. I felt the "older" brown cover had nicer, whiter pages. But either one worked for reading the story!
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Book changes

Unread postby cbollin » Sat Nov 01, 2008 12:14 am

Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2008 6:02 am
In the older editions of the manual, the book Celebrating Biblical Feasts is called Celebrate the Feasts. (same book, but publishers changed titles and that probably means some page numbers too) ---

And I've heard the book Pyramids went from soft to hard cover so older manual and newer books may not line up. But -- you'll probably figure it out.

-crystal
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CTG - Week 1 - Victor question

Unread postby jasntas » Thu Aug 18, 2011 10:36 am

giddynsonshine wrote:What is Victor on Week 1 Day 4 in the Bible Section?

The name of the book recently changed to The David C. Cook Journey through the Bible by V. Gilbert Beers. HTH :)
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CTG - difference between Victor JTB and Cook JTB?

Unread postby cbollin » Mon Aug 06, 2012 10:18 am

Tracey in ME wrote:Hi! Do I need to get a new "Journey Through The Bible" (JTB) book? I have the one with basically the same color as the one listed at the ordering site, but mine says "The Victor Journey Through The Bible" instead of this new one that says, "The David C. Cook Journey Through The Bible." Thanks!


http://www.mfwbooks.com/setcnt/FAQS
    What are the changes to Journey through the Bible?

    The Victor Journey through the Bible is now The David C. Cook Journey through the Bible. All of the pages and content are the same. The Teacher's Manuals can be used without any changes. Whenever Victor is referenced, you can use The David C. Cook Journey through the Bible instead.
that means.. the title changed. that's all. :)

Tracey in ME wrote:The one place I forgot to look! Doh! Thanks!

no worries.... I would have done the same as you and asked out loud.

-crystal
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Re: CTG - difference between Victor JTB and Cook JTB?

Unread postby jasntas » Mon Aug 06, 2012 12:42 pm

When I received the new book last year MFW had placed a note in it, on pink paper I think, that explained the name change.
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2014 changes?

Unread postby Joyhomeschool » Mon Jan 13, 2014 8:29 am

kayben wrote:Hi, i am wondering if there is a link to a post that might list all of the updates for this year? I wasn't on the boards for awhile and missed it all:) I am interested in CTG as I see a science change. But haven't made any set in stone decisions... Thanks so much! &)

Rebecca

I did a quick scanyesterday and other than the few book cover changes, the CtG science and the new language lessons book for 2nd and 3rd grade I did not notice any.
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Re: 2014 changes?

Unread postby TriciaMR » Sat Jan 25, 2014 10:55 pm

The main change for CTG is dropping Archimedes and changing Genesis For Kids to Jay Wile's new Science in the Beginning.

kerby wrote:Why the drop? Why the science change? Will those of us w/ a previous edition be able to get the new book and a scheduling option?? (Or would we have to purchase the new manual?)

Archimedes was moved to enrichment/book basket. It might be a cost thing?

As far as needing to schedule out Dr. Wile's book... I don't think it will be that hard to work it in. Don't do it while you're reading the pyramid book, and then don't do the "advanced" modules of each unit (the last 3)....
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Re: 2014 changes?

Unread postby Asmtyrick » Fri Feb 14, 2014 3:14 pm

Postby Asmtyrick » Sun Feb 16, 2014 6:37 pm
We purchased Jay Wiles new science book after Christmas and started using it in January. I have been using it without a lesson plan and it is very easy to do.

Mainly it is still broken down by days of creation, and you can just easily substitute. My kids are enjoying it (4th &6th grade). I like the review questions at the end and also tests that you can give if you want. I dont know if I will bother switching manuals since it has been so easy, and I do plan to use Archimedes too. I just look at it as I got a bonus Science book.

Hope that helps!
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CtG science

Unread postby MelissaB » Sat Feb 15, 2014 10:14 pm

Ohmomjacquie wrote:Been a while since I've been around here but we are still using MFW and loving it. Ds is almost done wth k and we are working through ECC. Thinking about CtG for next year and I've heard a lot of people on the FB group say they like the new science resources better. If I get an older edition how hard would it be to use the new science with it instead? TIA!

That may be a question for someone who works at MFW.

In case it's a little helpful to know, our family thought that the Genesis science was excellent (very easy, hands-on activities that our girls still remember years later), and we loved the Archimedes book. If you decide to purchase the 2013 curriculum, the "original" science was very good, too. :-) HTH.
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Re: CtG science

Unread postby TriciaMR » Sun Feb 16, 2014 8:12 am

I saw several posts on a few other forums where cbollin (Crystal) has posted that she plans to use her older manual in CTG with Wile's Science in the Beginning. Even though Crystal's family liked the old science and even did it twice, she recognizes that Wile's book is much better overall quality than Genesis for Kids. She says it will be really easy to sub it in.

Read the lesson plans that are in the book itself for ideas. Then, you can do science 2 or 3 days a week just going through the book in order. Pause the Wile book when the CTG manual has you do Pyramids and do Pyramids as written. Then pick up Wile again where you left off. When you get to Archimedes in your old manual, think of it as book basket.

This is what I'm going to do, too. I'll buy the new science book from MFW when I place my order for the rest of my stuff, but I don't feel a need to upgrade my TM, but this is my second time through the cycle, so I'm very comfortable with modifying. CTG is a great year, and I'm really looking forward to the new science book

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CTG manual

Unread postby Julie in MN » Sat Mar 01, 2014 1:46 pm

Winkie wrote:Next year we will be doing CTG for the second time. My manual is copyrighted 2003. What changes were made to the 2nd edition TM? Is it necessary to upgrade? The biggest change I see is that Genesis for Kids is replaced by Science in the Beginning. Is that scheduled in the grid and notes?

Thanks so much!

Hi Wendy, nice to "see" you here this weekend!
Here are all the things I can think of. Maybe others will add more.

1. The new science is scheduled in the manuals as of very recently, replacing Genesis For Kids & Archimedes (both of which are still available as enrichment items).

2. Some books changed editions over the years. For instance, the Art program went to a 2-volume set. Actually, almost every book has changed covers or publishers since we used CTG (Journey, Feasts, Pyramid is now paperback, some covers of read-alouds and CDs look different) but I don't think it will matter, unless you have an edition that has slightly different page numbers than your manual.

3. And of course the manual covers now reflect the Discover/Investigate/Declare stages and the student sheets have been pulled out. I haven't heard of many actual changes to the student sheets other than better print & nicer pages (some cardstock etc).

4. The CTG set includes the Fast Facts for math drill.
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Re: CTG manual

Unread postby Winkie » Sun Mar 02, 2014 11:49 am

Thanks Julie!
It sounds like I'll be okay with my old TM since I was planning to re-use my books. Seems like mostly cover changes. We did CTG in 2009-2010 so Art was already in 2 volumes then. I also plan to buy the Student sheets rather than hassle with photocopies for 3 students.

Does anyone know how Science in the Beginning is scheduled?
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Re: CTG manual

Unread postby TriciaMR » Sun Mar 02, 2014 12:42 pm

Winkie,

I think you can just do it 2 or 3 days a week - whenever "science" is scheduled. Don't do it when the pyramid book is scheduled. There are suggested schedules in the book.
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Re: CTG manual

Unread postby Winkie » Tue Mar 04, 2014 4:08 pm

Thank you Trish!
~Wendy
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Thank you for NEW Products!

Unread postby gratitude » Sat Apr 19, 2014 2:44 pm

Yodergoat wrote:I love the new products and am excited to use them when we begin ECC this summer. I appreciate that the makers of MFW are not content to let their products just sit there getting stale but are always working hard to keep their curriculum the best it can be. :)

I am looking forward to the new ones that we haven't used as well! :-)

The New Science in the Beginning for CTG looks like a wonderful science study that will tie in beautifully to the Biblical history study. I was so glad to see MFW make use of this new product on the home school market. :-)
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Re: Thank you for NEW Products!

Unread postby 4Truth » Sat Apr 19, 2014 3:53 pm

*LIKE*

I'm really tempted to buy Science in the Beginning to do with my dd over the summer, or at least as much as we have time to squeeze in before the new year. She loves science, and we haven't done well with it this year due to an extreme crazy schedule and not much time consistently at home. :~ She would really enjoy it even though some of the experiments look super easy. I think she could even do it somewhat independently, with me just looking over her shoulder.

annaz wrote:4Truth, there's also a new Ancients science, that follows the one we're speaking of here that perhaps is not as easy. He's planning to write several that go in era order that may or may not get more difficult.

I think he'll be too late for us to them, Annaz. My youngest will be doing the science in RTR next year as a 6th grader. And the next year after that is General.

{sniff} I soon won't have anymore littles to do MFW elementary with! ;(
annaz wrote:I know, sigh. I was hoping for this type of science all my elementary years. :(
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