CTG - Weeks 8 & 9

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CTG - Weeks 8 & 9

New postby Marie » Tue Feb 12, 2008 12:26 am

Weeks 8 & 9.
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Week 8: Did you like the lentils? More recipis?

New postby Tina » Tue Feb 12, 2008 1:52 am

Posted: Fri Oct 27, 2006 9:48 pm

Hi. We just made out lentil soup (CtG week 8). Did you all like it? It was, well, an earthy taste and I thought they were okay, but the rest of the family, they didn't enjoy them.

I'm glad we made them (ds actually tried them because he saw Esau eat them in a video we got, LOL). I'm hoping that maybe somebody had a nice add in or a favorite recipi. Anyone else prepare them another way that captured the family's taste buds?
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Lentil soup

New postby cbollin » Tue Feb 12, 2008 1:53 am

Posted: Sat Oct 28, 2006 5:59 am

{blush}
we played with the lentils and bought a can of Progresso Lentil Soup.

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New postby kellybell » Tue Feb 12, 2008 1:54 am

Posted: Sat Oct 28, 2006 8:21 am

My dc didn't like the lentil soup. HOWEVER, I find such experiences to be great lessons: "imagine that that's your daily food." It helps my kids appreciate things like burgers, pasta, pizza, etc. that they enjoy.

I like the Progresso idea too.
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Lentil soup recipi

New postby Ariasarias » Tue Feb 12, 2008 1:55 am

Posted: Sat Oct 28, 2006 9:45 am

have my own version and my family eats lentiils just fine.

Saute carrots(1-2 chopped), onion(1 sm or med) and celery(2-3 stalks) in olive oil. (Honestly, I don't know how much I use)

Add four cups of chicken stock, 1 cup of lentils, 1 cup of brown rice (if you use white rice add it about 1/2 way through or it will be mushy), 1 bay leaf, and one can of stewed tomatoes.

Bring to a boil. Cover and turn to low for 50 minutes. You may need to add more water at some point, depending on how soupy you want it. When it is finished I always add a little lemon juice to taste. This helps bring out some of the yummy flavors.

I have a friend who adds some frozen spinach at some point. It wouldn't get eaten at my house if I did that :).

I promise my children eat this. My husband can't eat enough of it.
I hope you enjoy.


Edited: I have since started adding 1/2 pound light turkey sausage. I slice it and quarter those pieces. I saute this first, then I add the vegetables. When I use sausage, I add more water._________________

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Lentil soup recipi

New postby mamaofredheads » Tue Feb 12, 2008 1:56 am

Posted: Sat Oct 28, 2006 10:34 am

Our family loves this recipe. I make it in the crockpot & it's super-easy. This is 1 1/2 time the original recipe as 1 recipe is never enough here. :)

2 1/4 C. lentils
10 1/2 C. water
1 medium onion (I use a dash of onion flakes as we don't really like onions)
1 large or 2 medium ribs of celery (I leave this out)
3 large or 2 medium carrots, sliced or diced
2/3 C. Bragg Liquid Aminos (you can purchase this at any health food store & some grocery stores - it makes it yummy!) or 3 T. soy sauce (recipe recommends lite)
6 tsp. lemon juice
1 1/2 tsp. ground cumin seed
1 1/2 T. butter
I usually throw in some dried parsley also.

I usually serve it with cornbread.
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Lentil soup recipi

New postby Kristinemomof3 » Tue Feb 12, 2008 1:57 am

Posted: Sat Oct 28, 2006 1:33 pm

wow, my kids LOVED it, asked for more the next day and then asked for it for lunch today (we just made it this week) I have made another soup that they enjoy and has lentils in it. I'll be making it again, as it's a cheap lunch.

Here's the other soup recipe that I make a lot.
Friendship Soup Mix - Layered Soup Mix In A Jar

1/2 cup dry split peas
1/3 cup beef bouillon granules
1/4 cup pearl barley
1/2 cup dry lentils
1/4 cup dried minced onion
2 tsp. Italian seasoning
1/2 cup uncooked long grain rice
1/2 cup alphabet macaroni or other small macaroni (can be put in a plastic sandwich bag to make it easier for the recipient to get out of jar )

Additional Ingredients:
1 lb. ground beef
3 qts. water
1 (28-ozs.) can diced tomatoes, undrained

In a 1-1/2-pint jar, layer the first eight ingredients in the order listed. Seal tightly.

Yield: 1 batch.

Instructions to attach to jar:

Friendship Soup Mix:

To Prepare Soup: Carefully remove macaroni from top of jar and set aside. In a large saucepan or Dutch oven, brown beef; drain. Add the water, tomatoes and soup mix; bring to a boil Reduce heat; cover and simmer for 45 minutes. Add reserved macaroni; cover and simmer for 15 to 20 minutes or until macaroni, peas, lentils and barley are tender.

Yield: 16 servings (4 quarts)
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Lentils

New postby caod » Tue Feb 12, 2008 1:57 am

Posted: Sat Oct 28, 2006 2:24 pm

We have learned to really enjoy red lentils as opposed to the brown lentils. They are much prettier, taste great and aren't quite as mushy. They cook quickly. An onion, a carrot, salt and pepper and whatever other combo you want. Put it over rice or just eat a bowl of it.

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Lentil soup

New postby KimR » Tue Feb 12, 2008 1:59 am

Posted: Sat Oct 28, 2006 7:03 pm

We made ours almost the same way Nicole did. We added carrots, celery,and ham. We also used one chicken broth cube per cup of water. My 11yo ds made it almost entirely by himself. He LOVES to cook! It was delicious!
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New postby SandKsmama » Tue Feb 12, 2008 2:00 am

Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2006 10:17 pm

I have a lentil recipe my kids LOVE. You can find it at www.allrecipes.com - and it's called Slow cooker lentils and sausage. SO good!

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Week 8: Timeline Dates for Flood and Babel

New postby Archiver2 » Tue Feb 12, 2008 2:05 am

mdfriederich wrote:I've procrastinated putting on Noah's Flood and the Tower of Babel because I don't know when to date them?! Has anyone found a date that young earth creationists have given to these events?

Thanks,
Diana in IL


Sat Nov 11, 2006 6:23 pm
Posted by: mamaofredheads


I didn't worry about a date. :) I just added it after the previous ones. When you get to the next timeline figure, MFW begins adding the dates for you at the bottom of the figures. I think their idea is that the important thing for our DC to understand is where it falls in history, not necessarily an exact date as there is some controversy about that.

(Just finished week 8 of CTG & love it!!!)


Posted: Sun Nov 12, 2006 7:53 am
Posted by: Suzq


We do not know the exact date either but we have a book called the Timechart History of the World and they mark the flood at 2348BC. And the first time we studied Old Testament History with Sonlight -- they marked the flood as being 2450BC. Our church is doing an Old Testament survey this fall and they put out a little booklet with a small timeline in it and they put the flood at 2300BC as an approximate date for it. So we decided to do that too.

As for the Tower of Babel the TimeChart book says it was 101 years later 2047BC and my church booklet did not put that on their chart.

I hope this helps you in deciding where to put them on your timeline.


Posted: Sun Nov 12, 2006 9:32 am
Posted by: cbollin


Just agreeing a bit with the other posts. It is more the framework of the timing that is important rather than an exact year for many of these early historical events. More accurate dates happen later in history and are easier to have a more set year. Even so, calendar methods change and there are always difficulties with conversion methods and trying to find common anchor dates in history.

Personally I don't mind hitting a ballpark figure for events from long ago. Answers in Genesis places the Flood at 2304 BC +/- 11 years if that helps you put a picture on a timeline.
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egyptian painting

New postby Tina » Thu Feb 21, 2008 11:58 pm

Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2006 9:06 pm

I wanted to share some things that we've been having fun with in this study. We did the egyptian tomb painting, but did it a different way. We poured the plaster of paris to make our "slate" and then dc traced egyptian figures from a book called "Kids can draw ancient egypt". My dd did an egyptian woman and my ds did a pharoh. I liked these better than the drawing in Ancient Egypt. Then they took the tracing paper and put it on their slate and used a nail to "carve" their drawing, then we painted it. It was a lot of fun.
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Meals/costumes from Ancient Egypt & Bible times

New postby Tina » Fri Feb 22, 2008 12:18 am

Posted: Fri Nov 10, 2006 7:54 pm

Okay, this one was neat. Last night I made another fish dinner with plain white rice, pita bread, fig cakes (from Ancient Egypt book), cucumbers with yogurt dipping, sweet pickles and olives and plain figs and sparkling apple cider. I also got daring and bought goat cheese, it was an interesting touch. All in all, it was a nice meal.

Oh, also, did any of you make the costumes from Ancient Egypt? We tried the paper wigs. My dd was so good about making them! Instead of black she made a red one and a green one. It looked more like...... well....... clown's hair!!! (LOL) (red for her, green for ds) The book directions for costumes seem pretty easy, with the sheet and all. I am not a sewing person. I haven't tried it yet. I don't think I'll be able to do the sandals unless I can get some free rope.

This is fun!
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CTG vocab word - caution

New postby Amy in NC » Sun Oct 05, 2008 12:50 pm

For those of you doing CTG this year you might want to be aware of a word in (I think) week 8. The root word is philos. The problem word is "philtre" meaing "love potion" according to EFTRU. When we did dictionary time, our dictionary's definition was not so benign.

I let my youngest pick two words to copy each week. She always picks the shortest words and definitions. So of course, 'Love Potion' being very short, was on her list. LOL So we just glazed over the dictionary definition. It worked out in the end. I just wanted to give others a heads up.

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CtG science-"karate Kid" experiment

New postby Lainie » Wed Nov 05, 2008 7:50 pm

The experiment on page 29 of Genesis for Kids...

did anyone have success in breaking their stick? We didn't have a long stick so we used an older ruler (12 inches) which wasn't long enough. We kept ripping the newspaper instead of breaking the ruler.

Any suggestions are appreciated :)

TIA
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Re: CtG science-"karate Kid" experiment

New postby cbollin » Wed Nov 05, 2008 8:16 pm

Lainie wrote:The experiment on page 29 of Genesis for Kids...
did anyone have success in breaking their stick? We didn't have a long stick so we used an older ruler (12 inches) which wasn't long enough. We kept ripping the newspaper instead of breaking the ruler. Any suggestions are appreciated :)


I got the book out just now and oldest got all excited. I remember this one mom!!! let me do it, let me do it. ok.

So, we tried it again right now. Neither the ruler or yard stick broke (I'm happy!!) and our newspaper didn't rip either. With the ruler we had it sticking out 2 inches. The instructions say to have it out 6 inches but that refers to a 30 inch stick. So, we played a close enough ratio game with it ;)

But what we did observe was that even with just one sheet of newspaper smoothed down on the stick it was a lot harder to lift that we expected. In fact, it didn't really move at all and we think that means it showed the air pressure effect that was talked about on the rest of the page. It was really amazing that the paper wouldn't move and the stick felt stuck to the table instead of flying off the way it did without paper.

Are you smoothing the paper all the way down to stick by rubbing your hand along it? Are you feeling the air pressure resistance even if the stick doesn't break? We used one sheet and did *not* put the stick under the seam of the paper.

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New postby Lainie » Wed Nov 05, 2008 8:31 pm

We could feel the resistance by the pressure and the kids got the point of it all. I was the one (grin) that really wanted to see the stick break!

I grew up wanting to be Bruce Lee (I thought this was my chance ;) )
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New postby Julie in MN » Fri Nov 07, 2008 12:10 am

I'm pretty sure ours broke, but I can't remember the details.

The thing I remember most is that the next spring at our science fair, one of the girls did that as her experiment, and it worked great! I remember thinking that ours didn't go as well as hers.

Not a lot of help, but maybe some hope?!
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Farm page alternative

New postby Julie in MN » Tue Feb 24, 2009 11:40 am

For the week 9 coloring page, my ds chose to make his own page because coloring isn't his favorite. So he typed up a short summary which we called -
    Homes
    Egypt's Middle Kingdom
    2000 BC
Then we pasted on a photo of the clay home that he had made the day before in CTG. (He put his clay home into our desert biome that we still have from ECC, so the photo looked very authentic! Well, except for the purple clay that he insisted upon using :( )
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Re: Lentil soup

New postby cbollin » Tue Sep 15, 2009 8:38 pm

cbollin wrote:Posted: Sat Oct 28, 2006 5:59 am

{blush}
we played with the lentils and bought a can of Progresso Lentil Soup.

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wow.. that was then.. this is now :)

Oldest ended up making the soup. it was really good!

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Re: Genesis for kids p. 29 karate kid

New postby cbollin » Tue Sep 15, 2009 8:42 pm

Lainie wrote:We could feel the resistance by the pressure and the kids got the point of it all. I was the one (grin) that really wanted to see the stick break!

I grew up wanting to be Bruce Lee (I thought this was my chance ;) )



I know it's too late for Lainine and her family... but for anyone else...

We re-did this project last week.

This time, we used a pine stick from a tree. How nice of the tree to provide all of that after a storm.
It was rounder than a ruler (obviously). And it wasn't very thick, but was at least 20 inches long, and 1/4 inch or more thick. It wasn't snap easily either.

We had about 4-5 inches hanging over the side of the table.
first - with no paper and the stick went flying. (no duh, right?)

then 2 sheets of newspaper. pressed them down.
hi ya!

snap goes the twig.

-crystal
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Genesis for Kids in week 9

New postby cbollin » Sun Sep 27, 2009 4:12 pm

Some tips from my kiddos on the experiments from p. 38-40 in Genesis for Kids:
(because my oldest is in Apologia Physical Science this year, and apologia has similar experiments with a twist....)

1. for the rain rain go away: put the ice in a plastic baggie
2. for the cloud in a bottle : just put the lit match in the bottle and close the lid.

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Genesis for Kids p. 32

New postby Ariasarias » Mon Sep 28, 2009 3:03 pm

For the "What's in Air?" experiment we used a floating candle instead of setting it up the way they said.
The result was really cool, as the candle rose as the water level rose. :)
Enjoy!!!
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Re: Genesis for Kids p. 32

New postby cbollin » Mon Sep 28, 2009 3:23 pm

Ariasarias wrote:For the "What's in Air?" experiment we used a floating candle instead of setting it up the way they said.
The result was really cool, as the candle rose as the water level rose. :)
Enjoy!!!
Nicole :)


tagging onto Nicole's experience (we did this recently...)

we used a tea light candle and had a hard time seeing it rise. hmm..... Then we put the tea light candle on a tiny clay pot. Then we could see the water rise on the pot.

It was really cool!

based on Nicole's experience we're going to try it again to see.. and look a little differently this time. But yeah, the trick on this one is not really to look at the jar, but at the objects in the jar -- that is how you will compare the water level rise. (took us a few tries that day to have the ah ha! moment! about that)

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Re: CtG: What's In Air Experiment - egg cup?

New postby cbollin » Mon Oct 05, 2009 6:31 am

TriciaMR wrote:Is the egg cup just something to set the candle up on, out of the water? Would a piece of clay (like for the Carbon Dioxide experiment on the next page) be okay?


The "egg cup" is anything to set the candle above the water level so you can see the water level rise. I used what we had available -- a tiny plastic "fake clay" pot, the kind that you have those herb greenhouse things as starters. I guess it's a one inch size. We tried to use a "demi tasse cup", but the handle got in the way. One idea I thought of if the plastic seed pot didn't work was to use another candle (votive size) for the "egg cup", and then place my tea light candle on top of that.

But we used a tea light candle for the candle. so we had to set it up out of the water or we just couldn't see the water level rise as easily. so if you go with clay -- make it tall enough that it is above the water level in the pan and the jar can fit over it. Basically, you and the kids will be looking for the water level to rise on the clay.

update: and I looked in the cabinet.... would a small jar of sprinkles work for "egg cup?"
viewtopic.php?f=26&t=4765&p=55918#p55918

TriciaMR wrote:Also, we don't have any soft drink bottles for the Carbon Dioxide experiment. Would a bottle with a long neck work (we have funnels to get stuff into the bottle)? No time to run to the grocery store for these...

-Trish


For the CO2 experiment.... any bottle should work. I used a glass bottle (the same Coke bottle that we were using for shofar). Hint: I recommend that you hold the bottle more horizontally than is shown in picture 4 on. 33 otherwise it might look like the foam drips on the candle. Took a moment for the CO2 to get there but it goes out. So if your bottle is really long it might take a bit longer, or more stuff in it. We had a 6 oz Coke bottle. and we used a regular candle in a candle holder. I have done the experiment quickly in other times and used a birthday candle that sat on modeling clay on a plate.

hmm..... I think I'm going to try it with a drinking glass in a moment. I'll use a small juice size glass, then try it again with I guess they are "champagne" glasses. About the right size for it. Wedding gifts from 19 years ago -- let's get Crystal some 'crystal glasses'


edit to update:
the juice glass was harder to use, but did work. The champagne glass -- worked ok, but ...
I looked over in the sink at an empty 64 oz juice plastic bottle. Perfect. Easy to hold and "pour" it out. Didn't even take much vinegar or baking soda either. so, if you happen to have a juice bottle around, that can work too. I was then able to pour out the CO2 as shown in picture 4 on p. 33. With my smaller bottle (coke bottle) it worked better on the horizontal.

another update:
Yes, a half gal. plastic milk jug worked perfect! even easier than the juice.......

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