Mom2theteam wrote:I've noticed that many who say that haven't actually done the entire program. They look at the surface or did the first few units, which of course are easier, and make a judgment without actually experiencing it. They assume the child is basically learning the letter sound and how to write that each week without understanding that the letters of each unit are just a framework to set the real phonics work into. Here is my experience with it.
It is my understanding that MFW 1st actually teaches 2 years of phonics instructions in 1. That is not light in my opinion.
Mom2theteam wrote:I've used I've noticed that many who say that haven't actually done the entire program. They look at the surface or did the first few units, which of course are easier, and make a judgment without actually experiencing it. They assume the child is basically learning the letter sound and how to write that each week without understanding that the letters of each unit are just a framework to set the real phonics
mothermayi wrote:Your dc did Bigger as a 2nd grader, right? We tried HOD for the fall of 2nd grade. Then we came back and did ADV for the rest of second grade, which was a much better choice for him! What I found with ADV was we began making progress again with writing (PLL), book basket (love to learn and read to learn), and the creative freedom I need as a teacher. HOD has a different scope and sequence for writing so that is part of the reason. It starts off heavily focused on oral narration then has quite a bit of drawing for note booking in Bigger (at least the parts we did), and then starts actual written narrations in Preparing. The main difference with MFW in that area is Marie starts early written narrations and drawn narrations in MFW1. A different approach, and for us personally the MFW approach works better in this area. So theoretically, Bigger would be more on level with Adventures, The programs are difficult to compare for levels since the scope and sequence for teaching writing and phonics is different. The Pioneers and Patriots book used in Beyond is used in ADV; so often those two will be compared. Beyond though is really more of a first grade program and Bigger is more of a 2nd grade program. The confusing part though is that since HOD doesn't start written narrations until Preparing the writing comes earlier in MFW (MFW1), but the spines for history (such as in Bigger) are more difficult than the spines in ADV. The literature in ADV though is comparable with the read alouds in the deluxe package, and the books in the book basket are also very comparable to the Bigger level. So I guess I will share a little more of the story with you. After ADV I decided I wanted to do ECC with a 4th and 3rd graders, which I will have this fall, instead of a 3rd and 2nd grader (young 2nd at that). This gave me a gap year. So I tried HOD again to fill it. First Preparing and then CTC. Well....Preparing my oldest found too easy after ADV. He thought the drawing was too simplified (Drawing with Children that MFW sells that goes with the old MFW1 TM is so very good). The note booking was beginning written narrations in Preparing, and this too was easier than what he was used to from Primary Language Lessons and ADV note booking. So we went up to CTC (fortunately he absolutely loves to read and all of the HOD books became a 3rd grade book basket that he read one at a time). For CTC we were finally on par with his abilities. Then the challenge became how scripted it is for word to word of what to put onto the note book pages. The prayers were scripted too. I guess at this point I gave up. I am not trying to give negative reflections here on HOD; I respect the company and the work being done and love the book choices for book basket for MFW. For us though it didn't work. I also dearly missed the missionary focus of MFW and the MFW approach to Bible and the Biblical world view integrated into this curriculum. So that greener grass is done for us. God has been working on my heart a lot about the need for a spirit of contentment in home schooling and to put all of my Trust and eyes on Him so that we have steady consistent progress. Our second attempt at HOD though wasn't so much about curiosity as a thought that it might work to fill a gap year. I saw your other thread and said, "Hooray!!!". I am out of time, but perhaps I can post on the other thread later. So happy for you; I still wanted to answer your question here though. Blessings for your school year.which is also a 2nd grade program. But it seems like MFW 1 prepared your dc so well that the writing, science, and drawing in second grade (Bigger) were easier than what dc did in MFW 1 (if I'm understanding correctly).This is amazing!
You hit the nail on the head when you said it is usually much more than meets the eye. That's my problem. I just can't *see* it when I look at the catalog. I also need to change my thinking and acknowledge that gentle does not equate to lacking in academics. I bought "For the Children's Sake" from MFW and some Ruth Beechick material so it is helping. I was so afraid to go with MFW K because the phonics seemed slow and she was already reading. We were already 1/2 done with MUS Primer. She was doing copywork (about 6 word sentences). My dd is the type that likes to keep it moving and not linger on things once she already knows them. I could hear it in my head, "Mom, this is toooooooo eeeeeaaaassssyyyyy!" (followed by chuckles from her). But the character building and bible looked fantastic! I had such a hard time with it that I just ditched it and went with HOD because I could *see* how to customize her learning. If you notice from my signature, I also went with HOD LHTH for preschool for my younger dd. But then I couldn't get MFW PreK out of my head so I bought that, too . It is very gentle and fun and she is learning a lot from it. It has helped me to see what is meant by gentle learning and I now have a growing respect for it. I also bought the MFW Kindergarten Literature Collection/Activity Guide (my library is horrible) and the animal habitats bc we wanted to do them. Ugh, as you can see, I am all over the place!
This brings me to thinking ahead to first grade for my kindy bc I may need to purchase next year's curriculum this fall. I can't get MFW 1 out of my head, even though I'm still trying to see it for what it is versus the couple of paragraphs in the catalog. But from what I'm gathering from BTDT mom's, MFW 1 serves as a firm foundation biblically and academically. And after completing MFW 1, my student will be well prepared to join her older siblings in the MFW cycle as a 2nd grader (with 2/3 grade supplement). Right?
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