Updates - CTG

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Updates - CTG

Unread postby MFW-Julie/Archiver » Fri Feb 29, 2008 12:11 pm

Upgrade information summarized from the MFW website:

If you own an older edition of Creation to the Greeks, consider upgrading to the current edition. The core of the program has not changed, but several books have been revised or replaced.

* In 2014, Genesis for Kids was replaced by Science in the Beginning. We highly recommend this new book since it provides excellent experiments along with wonderful pictures and information for 2nd-6th graders. Our recommended Book Basket library list was also updated.

* In 2016, Streams of Civilization and Dinosaurs of Eden were revised with new color illustrations and minor text edits.

You may exchange your Creation to the Greeks Teacher's Manual for the current edition. Please call our office at 573-202-2000 to request the upgrade exchange; we'll explain how to return your Teacher's Manual to our office.

If you prefer to use your older Teacher's Manual with Science in the Beginning, refer to this lesson schedule. It doesn't include weekly materials lists for science experiments. http://www.mfwbooks.com/downloads/pdfs/ ... hedule.pdf

http://www.mfwbooks.com/products/10/Cre ... s/#Upgrade

Additional information summarized from Message Board conversations over the years:

1. Teacher's Manual: In 2010, Second Editions added Student Sheets rather than copying from the appendix and from other materials. In 2014, Teacher's Manual covers were changed to reflect the Discover/Investigate/Declare stages. Print dates will give you the best idea of whether the page numbers in your Manual will match the page numbers in various books used in CTG which may be changed by publishers at various times.

2. Student Sheets: Current Student Sheets work with all previous editions of CTG.

3. Streams of Civilization: 3rd edition came out in 2016.

4. Dinosaurs of Eden was revised in 2016.

5. Science in the Beginning: Replaced Genesis For Kids in 2014. This is a completely new text by Jay Wile, but similarly arranges science topics around the days of creation. The new science program has received rave reviews and makes an upgrade a valuable option. The science book basket list was also updated.

The MFW website offers a PDF for using this book with an older manual. http://www.mfwbooks.com/downloads/pdfs/ ... hedule.pdf . Also...

6. Archimedes: This book was moved to Book Basket (and is available as an Enrichment item), also in 2014.

7. The David C. Cook Journey through the Bible: Previously called Victor Journey Through the Bible. Page numbers remained the same. Changed around 2011.
MFW FAQ wrote:What are the changes to Journey through the Bible? The Victor Journey through the Bible is now The David C. Cook Journey through the Bible. All of the pages and content are the same. The Teacher's Manuals can be used without any changes. Whenever Victor is referenced, you can use The David C. Cook Journey through the Bible instead.

8. God and the History of Art: This went from 1-volume, plastic spiral, paper cover to 2-volume, bound books around 2008. The content appears to be the same, with a few word changes.
kellybell wrote:There are a few wording changes that we've noticed. My dd's have the older one-volume comb-bound books and my ds has the two-volume paper-back. All we've noticed are some wording changes here or there to make things clearer.

9. The Children's Homer: Cover and paper changes around 2008.

10. Celebrate the Feasts: Previously called Celebrating Biblical Feasts around 2008.

11. Pyramids: This is now softcover, with a red cover, since around 2008.

12. Fast Facts was included in all Investigate packages at first. Now, families typically get that resource in ECC.

Disclaimer: It's always easiest to get a package that was all sold together by MFW at the same time, so page numbers match and titles are clear. However, it typically isn't too much work to do it other ways.

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CTG - difference between Victor JTB and Cook JTB?

Unread postby jasntas » Mon Aug 06, 2012 12:42 pm

When I received the new book last year MFW had placed a note in it, on pink paper I think, that explained the name change.
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2014 changes?

Unread postby Asmtyrick » Fri Feb 14, 2014 2:14 pm

TriciaMR wrote:As far as needing to schedule out Dr. Wile's book... I don't think it will be that hard to work it in. Don't do it while you're reading the pyramid book, and then don't do the "advanced" modules of each unit (the last 3)....

Postby Asmtyrick » Sun Feb 16, 2014 6:37 pm
We purchased Jay Wiles new science book after Christmas and started using it in January. I have been using it without a lesson plan and it is very easy to do.

Mainly it is still broken down by days of creation, and you can just easily substitute. My kids are enjoying it (4th &6th grade). I like the review questions at the end and also tests that you can give if you want. I dont know if I will bother switching manuals since it has been so easy, and I do plan to use Archimedes too. I just look at it as I got a bonus Science book.


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CtG science

Unread postby MelissaB » Sat Feb 15, 2014 9:14 pm

Ohmomjacquie wrote:Been a while since I've been around here but we are still using MFW and loving it. Ds is almost done wth k and we are working through ECC. Thinking about CtG for next year and I've heard a lot of people on the FB group say they like the new science resources better. If I get an older edition how hard would it be to use the new science with it instead? TIA!

In case it's a little helpful to know, our family thought that the Genesis science was excellent (very easy, hands-on activities that our girls still remember years later), and we loved the Archimedes book. If you decide to purchase the 2013 curriculum, the "original" science was very good, too. :-) HTH.
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Re: CtG science

Unread postby TriciaMR » Sun Feb 16, 2014 7:12 am

I saw several posts on a few other forums where cbollin (Crystal) has posted that she plans to use her older manual in CTG with Wile's Science in the Beginning. Read the lesson plans that are in the book itself for ideas. Then, you can do science 2 or 3 days a week just going through the book in order. Pause the Wile book when the CTG manual has you do Pyramids and do Pyramids as written. Then pick up Wile again where you left off. When you get to Archimedes in your old manual, think of it as book basket.

This is what I'm going to do, too. I'll buy the new science book from MFW when I place my order for the rest of my stuff, but I don't feel a need to upgrade my TM, but this is my second time through the cycle, so I'm very comfortable with modifying. CTG is a great year, and I'm really looking forward to the new science book.

Winkie wrote:Does anyone know how Science in the Beginning is scheduled?


I think you can just do it 2 or 3 days a week - whenever "science" is scheduled. Don't do it when the pyramid book is scheduled. There are suggested schedules in the book.
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Thank you for NEW Products!

Unread postby gratitude » Sat Apr 19, 2014 2:44 pm

Yodergoat wrote:I love the new products and am excited to use them when we begin ECC this summer. I appreciate that the makers of MFW are not content to let their products just sit there getting stale but are always working hard to keep their curriculum the best it can be. :)

I am looking forward to the new ones that we haven't used as well! :-)

The New Science in the Beginning for CTG looks like a wonderful science study that will tie in beautifully to the Biblical history study. I was so glad to see MFW make use of this new product on the home school market. :-)

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Re: Thank you for NEW Products!

Unread postby 4Truth » Sat Apr 19, 2014 3:53 pm


I'm really tempted to buy Science in the Beginning to do with my dd over the summer, or at least as much as we have time to squeeze in before the new year. She loves science, and we haven't done well with it this year due to an extreme crazy schedule and not much time consistently at home. :~ She would really enjoy it even though some of the experiments look super easy. I think she could even do it somewhat independently, with me just looking over her shoulder.

annaz wrote:4Truth, there's also a new Ancients science, that follows the one we're speaking of here that perhaps is not as easy. He's planning to write several that go in era order that may or may not get more difficult.

I think he'll be too late for us to them, Annaz. My youngest will be doing the science in RTR next year as a 6th grader. And the next year after that is General.

{sniff} I soon won't have anymore littles to do MFW elementary with! ;(
annaz wrote:I know, sigh. I was hoping for this type of science all my elementary years. :(
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