dorenekimberly wrote:Wow....thank you so much to all of you who replied! I truly appreciate your input. One question....Voice of the Martyrs was mentioned. The only thing I see about material from them is written in the TM Week 15.
Using the fact cards and the daily praying for Muslims is what I was talking about. You don't just read 2 of those cards a day. You spend time discussing it and praying. That's not small stuff.
Well, like Dawn said, sometimes it's nicer to have a book from a neutral stance so that you can put your own spin on it instead of another Christian's point of view. Just because Linda H (MOH author) is a sweet, petite lady.... she and I may not agree on some things. Still want to know where she gets her hair done. She always looks so great. I should ask her. anyway....
dorenekimberly wrote:Someone asked what about the lesson on Islam I found unappealing. As my husband was reading it aloud to the children, it just bothered us how it talked about Muhammad being approached by Gabriel as being the messenger of the one true God. The kids were asking if this was the same Gabriel, same God in our Bible, etc. So to me it seems like it is presented as just another religion, like Christianity.
so, to help a bit on the specific lesson: My copy of SOTW makes it clear that the story is told "as Muhammad's followers tell it". In other words, I think Susan Wise Bauer was saying "ok, this is what they think... and what they tell their children". very neutral position.
how did your husband respond to your Children? It sounds to me that y'all just were surprised the children had questions and you weren't sure how to answer. I told my daughter "I'm not really sure it was". I honestly didn't think that sentence in that section presented it as just some other religion. It specifically says this is what Muslim tell in their story about why they think Muhammad's words were to be listened to.
then at the end of the section, it asks you to think if the five pillars are difficult to follow and Do they help people to live good lives? (that's the perfect lead in for family discussion about the need for Grace over works without the author having to say that). Then you do the Fact and Prayer cards together. See my interpretation of the same sentence?
One thing I've noticed over the years of using MFW is how much my children have a heart for wanting Muslims to know that Jesus was not just and only a prophet. It's come from directly using MFW as written. We also get these newsletters from God's Word for the Nations. In many people groups in the former soviet union, there are lots of Muslim groups. As these people are permitted to have the ability to worship again (after soviet rule), they want to have books in their heart language. Well, in Muslim culture it is generally ok for them to read a holy book of a "prophet". So, they are allowed to read from the Injil (New Testament - is what we call it). One of the newsletters from God's Word for the Nations was all about a people group who received the Injil in their heart language. One of the Iman's received the book with joy. He was quoting as saying "Now I have something to read from the towers". Our hearts were touched a lot from that newsletter. My kiddos easily knew from years of praying from things in MFW that for Muslims to begin to read the words of Jesus is a huge step for them. Using SOTW did not ruin my children or make them think all religions are equal.
dorenekimberly wrote:I wonder why assigned reading goes from the Fall of Rome, and skips The Early Days of Britain, Christianity Comes to Britain, and goes onto the Byzantine Empire and Islam.
As to the rhyme and reason of the order of history in RTR not 100% following the order of the SOTW text: Marie sometimes re-arranges the book order to make for a better flow of history to finish out a culture before back tracking a tiny bit to those other chapters. She will cover the Britain stuff. But it will be done so that you get a fuller picture to help understand more in the middle ages and get it all at once. I like that approach better than always sticking 100% to a timeline approach.
dorenekimberly wrote:I looked up in the Mystery of History how Mohammed and Islam were represented. The author refers to Allah as their god with a small "g".
as to the upper vs. lower case "g" in god when referring to Allah, it's just an English grammar rule vs. anything else attached with meaning to it.
dorenekimberly wrote:I also read in a homeschooling catalog: "....these books do not go out of their way to show the providence of God throughout history.
oh yeah.... maybe a link to something David Hazell wrote about some of this would be helpful too on the showing providence of God? maybe not.
http://board.mfwbooks.com/viewtopic.php ... 901&#p6901
I think past these 2 chapters on the beginnings of Islam, you'll be fine.
SOTW is not written from an anti Christian worldview. MFW doesn't use volume 1. and depending on which edition of MOH you have, there were some interesting "mistakes" in Linda's interpretation of Exodus chapter 1.