mothergooseofthree wrote:In the past, my rising 8th grade ds has used SL, HOD, and MFW. All fit at the time. What we did not like about most of them was the jumping from book to book for just history in one day. I love multiple sources, but would prefer one book per day to streamline things. Ds also got tired of me reading history to him and just wanted his assignments to do on his own. Since I was combining him with younger siblings, we did MFW together. I also preferred SL book choices, though we went with Notgrass America the Beautiful for 7th and 8th with extra literature. Ds picked it, and although you do have to do the maps and timeline plus often have a reading of original documents, he prefers it over the readings from different sources we did in MFW. Then the literature just counted for his assigned reading for the day.
Now, I am looking ahead to high school. Part of me wants to pick our own materials and work it all out myself, but I will have two in upper elementary and a new baby when ds starts high school. Plus, I am afraid of missing something if I try to do it myself.
I have looked around at various curricula along with ds, and he chooses MFW.......or he is okay with us making our own. He just ruled out HOD because all of those little boxes feel disjointed and tedious to him. He ruled out SL because of the tons of notes in the guide, and though I like the book selections in their lower levels, I am unsure of SL for hs. So, while I say he chose MFW, it was with a sixty second glance of a few other programs at our convention, and MFW just looked more visually appealing in the format of the guide to him. He didn't look at the books at all. This is my kid that only does school because it is a necessary evil and does not put forth more effort than required.
So, will we like MFW for high school? Will it fit? Will he be okay coming into it without doing the five-year cycle? We did CtG and just a bit of RtR. He is using [a writing program] for 8th this year, so I think his writing skills will be up to par.
Also, I will be adding Latin, MUS, Apologia or another Biology, and the MFW Logic for 9th. How long should his days run?
Hi over here,
I won't repeat my little conversation from before, but I spotted a few new questions in there
Seems like the board is quiet this summer, so I'll keep you company until some more high school families join in.
1. No worries coming into MFW at high school. Bret, the MFW high school expert (whom you can call and chat with on the phone) started MFW with high schoolers.
2. As for time per day, I usually plan for an hour a day per credit. MFW has light Fridays, and my son usually does his service project in summers (or on Sundays this year), but I still plan for an hour per day on Friday as well, just to catch up or do something outside of the basics (my son was in a book club on Fridays, and had a track-n-field day, etc.).
I do personally not add many electives. If a student is already doing foreign language and Bible, plus the core 4, that's a full load where I live. Then I might give a half credit for phy ed, or the 0.25 credit for geography in WHL, and now it's a little more with dual enrollment credits, but I don't like to overload.
3. Multiple books, hmmm, here's a run-down.
Bible credit in AHL:
- Old Testament and questions about it. Usually just one segment a day, but adding a Psalm -- he could do those all together at the end of the year or something? My son kind of did that.
- Victor Journey (or now it has a new name) looking at pictures and maps and details that relate to the Bible reading
English credit in AHL:
- There is an optional reading box most days, but you can skip that if you like. My son used his book club for that. Yours might have books he likes to read?
- There is a main assignment, which often includes both reading a piece of literature and doing an assignment of some sort (three major literature studies, the rest have fairly minor assignments).
History credit in AHL (probably your main concern?):
- Notgrass is used from creation through the Greeks, so not every day, and a few chapters are used out of order since AHL is chronological and Nograss sometimes groups things more widely and then narrows it down. Along with reading from Notgrass, you would have his questions and a little Bible question and grammar point, all with their check-boxes on the grid (the quizzes aren't used until WHL). Notgrass gives a connection between Biblical and secular history.
- The entire Usborne Encyclopedia is read over the year (with the Rome part next year). This gives all the details that Notgrass doesn't have time to dwell on, as well as visuals. So it isn't read all through, but spread out as the different areas of the world and such come up.
- Mapping and timeline come up on occasion in each major segment of history (these are not as major in AHL as they are in WHL).
- Two other books are added. I can't say if these would annoy your son. For us, they were primary in terms of AHL being a year of apologetics. The first, Unwrapping the Pharaohs,
helped him explore whether the Bible fit with archaeology finds. The book actually discussed more than one Christian timeline that matched Biblical events in Egypt with archaeological finds (although the author of course preferred his own conclusions, it was good he brought up a variety). The other, New Answers Book,
helped my son explore whether the Bible fit with science. It was always asking, what about this question? what about that question people have?
Okay, just trying to help you see the unseen, so you can decide what will work. Keep asking. And I hope we'll have more join in the conversation!