deltagal wrote:I'm trying to decide about our math route for a slow thinking 13 yo boy? How much time do you spend a day on a math lesson in Saxon 8/7?

My middle gal - slow to average in stuff.

Me: not the best clock watcher in terms of "this took us X minutes"

A typical day for us in 87

*the "drill sheet" 5 minutes or less. Some days, she needed longer and it was 10 minutes. but more likely it was 5 minutes

*about 3-5 minutes for the "warm up" prior to the lesson. Those are mental math problems and one thinking problem.

It was my preference to stand there while she did those and listen for right answers.

Then, we read the lesson together and walked through the samples. We decided not to use the DIVE CD this year.

This was about 5 minutes or so on my part to read through it. maybe 10? but it has never felt long to me.

Then, she practices the "practice set" - this could take her about 10 minutes or so.

then, the problem set with the mfw plans. 45 minutes or so. If she was taking more than that, I usually came back to help move her along and encourage to finish.

also, this might shock people. eek. I let her use calculator now in 7th grade. so part of her slow down in math was the physical writing of long division and long multiplication. I watched her in Singapore and know that she knows how to do them long hand. It's time to speed it up.

so,... I'd guess on typical day, I was choosing to spend up to 20 minutes of instruction time with her. let her work for 45 minutes on problem sets.. then maybe a 10 minute session to finish up and help with problems that she was stuck on. She knows to circle a problem that she doesn't know what to do, or has questions, and we do all of those questions at the end of math time.

as the year progressed she began to want to do the lesson more on her own, so I backed off from teaching the "new concept" and being there for practice sets. I'd give her the "drill page" and start a load a laundry. Check the drill page... and then we'd do the "warm up mental math". Then, I'm back to dishes, or computer or something else

She has even gotten to the point now, that she likes to check her work on problem sets. She's slow to average but really laid back and cool with missing things and learning from mistakes. She's just so fine and mellow.

we certainly did not feel the need to have the beginning of 7th grade be as independent as it developed into by end of year.

just my experience with my middle gal. I don't remember with oldest. She's in Alg II now.. depending on her mood and attitude.... who knows.... LOL. she's 7 lessons for the end of the book.

deltagal wrote:Thanks Crystal. This helps.

My 7th grader is making good progress now through Singapore. We are currently in 4B. I'm thinking when he finishes 5B we'll just go straight into Saxon 8/7.

my middle daughter had an easy transition from Singapore 5B into Saxon 87. She finished out 5B in summer after "6th" grade. and took a few weeks off from math, then 87. It felt like the natural place between those programs for this age.

just for random babbling here.... things introduced in 6A/6B are also introduced in 87. So... it all works out great.

for students like my oldest who did finish 6B singapore, 87 is still the starting point in 7th grade. it really is

-crystal

deltagal wrote:Well then we'll just be a year off the plan with an 8th grader in 8/7.