General ideas for science in RTR: Astronomy

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Marie
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General ideas for science in RTR: Astronomy

Unread post by Marie » Wed Feb 13, 2008 11:23 pm

General ideas for science in RTR: Astronomy.


Additional ideas might be located on other boards:

RTR Archives
Astronomy notebooks: http://board.mfwbooks.com/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=4940

First Grade Ideas board
Stars & Planets: http://board.mfwbooks.com/viewtopic.php?f=22&t=3553
Sun & Moon: http://board.mfwbooks.com/viewtopic.php?f=22&t=3551
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Kindergarten Unit Ideas board
Sun: http://board.mfwbooks.com/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=50
Moon: http://board.mfwbooks.com/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=49

cbollin

Link: RTR users or anyone who likes astronomy

Unread post by cbollin » Thu Feb 14, 2008 12:10 am

Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2007 2:27 pm

Just wanted to mention that there are some great things at this site:
www.Nasa.gov

Recently we viewed newly released photos of Saturn. Hope you enjoy the site as much as we did today.

-crystal

cbollin

Week 33 (or any Astronomy week): NASA site

Unread post by cbollin » Thu Feb 14, 2008 12:11 am

Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2006 1:46 pm

Week 33: Here's a fun website for the younger crowd for week 33 Science (or any of the astronomy unit weeks)

Kids page from NASA.

http://www.nasa.gov/audience/forkids/home/index.html


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Ideas: Books

Unread post by Julie in MN » Thu Feb 14, 2008 8:48 am

Nice read-aloud
Ds and I just finished a book that is a very nice read-aloud for the end of RTR, when you have finished all the scheduled read-alouds.

It is called Destination: Moon, The Spiritual and Scientific Voyage of the Eighth Man to Walk on the Moon, by Astronaut James Irwin. (Ours says it is the 15th Anniversary Expanded Edition, published by Vision Forum.)

It is likely way too much text for some kids, especially little ones. But my 6th grade ds and I enjoyed it very much. It went along nicely with our Astronomy study. There are also many beautiful photographs on every page.

Jim Irwin shares all the little details that you might wonder about, in terms of an astronaut's preparation and duties. He also shares in his prologue about some of the mistakes he made in his early career that might have caused him not to have this opportunity. He is quite honest about the hard work, as well as the fun.

And it was very special when someone as "important and famous" as an astronaut shared his awe of God's creation with my child.

Book basket:
Do You Ears Pop In Space? And 500 other surprising questions about space travel, by R. Mike Mullane, astronaut.
Fun questions for older elementary age, quite a bit of science explanation about what happens, but it's on a kid-level, so not thorough all the time but not overwhelming.

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Extras from Jeannie Fulbright & Apologia

Unread post by Julie in MN » Sun Jun 08, 2008 1:07 am

Jeannie Fulbright & Apologia offer several helpful resources:

The front of the Apologia textbook tells how to access the book extras on their website. Those include:
* a list of errata
* link for dates of any upcoming solar & lunar eclipses
* link for current moonrise/moonset times (and that site has an option of printing the sunrise/sunset times instead)
* there are free notebook pages, but my ds made his on the computer & for some special details, I preferred the ones below...


Jeannie has her own website, with free notebooking pages.
* In her younger notebook, I like the moon chart, page 9:
http://www.jeanniefulbright.citymax.com ... riting.pdf

* Her older notebook offers several versions of the Comic Strip activity in Venus, pages 8-10:
https://apologia.securesites.net/pdfs/n ... tebook.pdf?

*Both of those links (the older & younger) have a good Venn diagram for comparing Jupiter & Saturn, and also a page for the Pluto Debate.


There is a Yahoo group with lots of "Files" at:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Elem_Apologia_Science/
* The file called "ApologiaAstronomy.pdf" has a nice page for recording the different mnemonics your child comes up with (p. 16).
* That same file also gives pages to read about Copernicus & Ptolomy (p. 34-35).
* And, it has a page you can use to record your studies, if you like to keep records (p. 15).
* Another file called "ASTLUN.doc" (a Word file) has a nice grid to print out for the "radar box" project in Venus. We drew the grid on a paper towel, used wooden skewers to poke thru it, and printed this grid out for writing down the results. Ds enjoyed the activity & mom thought it had good educational value.
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Lunar Eclipse Learning

Unread post by Julie - Staff » Mon Jul 07, 2008 11:10 pm

Posted Wed Feb 20, 2008 pm by Marcy KY
My son set up his telescope on the front porch as soon as we came in from church. We had a very clear, cloudless night tonight. He would come in and out (I just looked out the front window of my nice and warm living room). At one point I hear this strumming sound. I look outside and Ben is sitting on the front porch looking up at the moon, strumming his dulcimer.

I have no idea what on earth (or the moon!) made him think that strumming a dulcimer went along with watching a lunar eclipse, but is was priceless.

He came in after, got out his sketch pad and proceeded to sketch what the moon looked like at different times during the eclipse, and then drew the sun, earth and moon in perfect alignment.

I love home schooling

Posted Thu Feb 21, 2008 1:32 pm by Lainie
We watched last night as well. We were trying to explain to the younger ones what was happening and happened to have two exercise balls out. One very large and blue; the other much smaller and yellow. My husband was the "sun" with a large flashlight and we created the shadow on the yellow "moon" ball (held by a dd) with the blue "earth" ball (held by ds). It was great! They could really wrap their brains around what was happening by our model of it.

We also had the opportunity to talk about Jesus being like the Sun and we are the moon, reflecting Him. It really clicked with our 11 yo that we can't completely reflect Jesus when "the world" gets in the way. So, as we watched the eclipse diminish and the full moon being restored, we called it our "repentant moon" and cheered when it was full again.

She spent some time alone in our drive way talking to the Lord and came in teary eyed at His goodness. It was so sweet.

Truly, a great night...

2 Corinthians 3:18 And all of us have had that veil removed so that we can be mirrors that brightly reflect the glory of the Lord. And as the Spirit of the Lord works within us, we become more and more like him and reflect his glory even more.

Titus 2:7 And you yourself must be an example to them by doing good deeds of every kind. Let everything you do reflect the integrity and seriousness of your teaching.

Ps119:5 Oh, that my actions would consistently reflect your principles!

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Unread post by Julie in MN » Sun Jul 13, 2008 11:29 pm

Some ideas I saved from the newsletter & yahoo group of the author of Astronomy, Jeannie Fulbright:

The Sun
...melting a pat of butter if you're not sure it's sunny enough to melt the chocolate...
Jeannie
(or you could do both!)
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For older kids who want to study a little more in depth (such as the option in the manual for 7th & 8th graders), this was a list by the author, Jeannie Fulbright, that I kept for reference:

- become more familiar with the constellations,
- classify star magnitudes and
- study the different space craft missions and astronomers from the past, present and future.
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Astronomy

Unread post by Blessed Beth » Wed May 26, 2010 6:22 pm

The astronomical society introduced us to a cool website for astronomy. It is http://www.stellarium.org/. It is a free open source planetarium on your computer showing you a realistic sky in 3D. My ds like to click on their favorite planet and then they can zoom in for a telescopic view and see the surrounding moons. You also see the sky from a perspective of the state that you are living in. Have fun.
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Re: Astronomy

Unread post by TriciaMR » Wed May 26, 2010 6:41 pm

Ooooh. Kind of like "google-sky" instead of "google-earth." Looks like fun!

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Lab kits

Unread post by tndtanaka » Wed Aug 18, 2010 5:06 pm

For those who find it a challenge to collect materials for lab experiments I wanted to let you know that there are companies that have put together all or most of the materials you need for the experiments pre-packaged. These are in no means necessary as most of the materials are easy to obtain on your own for less but if you are a bit disorganized and want a convenient way to save time I would suggest you search the web for Exploring Creation through Astronomy Lab kits. I found 2 different available kits. I purchased the more complete one but I think I will purchase the less expensive one next year and gather some of the materials myself for a compromise.
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Lapbooks

Unread post by tndtanaka » Wed Aug 18, 2010 5:15 pm

I will be teaching RTR and 1st this year. I plan to do the Astronomy unit with both my 1st and 5th grader. For the 1st grader I am purchasing Preprinted Lapbooks. They are a wonderful way to display the information learned. The child feels it is more of a craft than school work.

Here is a link:
http://rainbowresource.com/product/Expl ... 513-433460

Here is a picture of a completed lapbook:
http://rainbowresource.com/pictures/045 ... 513-433460
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Apologia experiment kit

Unread post by IdahoGrown » Wed Apr 06, 2011 4:33 pm

I purchased the $72 kit from CBD, which includes all of the experiment requirements (for the Anatomy course). It.is.AWESOME! I am so glad I purchased it!!

It has all of the items in separate zip top bags with a label that includes the experiment number, a list of what is provided, and a list of what the parent needs to provide.

There are 87 items, all separated nicely, and labeled...I could not have done that myself at the price I paid for this kit. And although it was purchased through CBD, it is by Nature's Workshop Plus! in case anyone wants to purchase it directly from the company.

...so there is my review in case anyone was wondering! :-)

[editor's note: MFW does not use the Apologia Anatomy book, but this information may be useful to some users of Apologia Astronomy, as scheduled in RTR, especially our MFW users overseas.]
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Re: re: Apologia Anatomy with RTR--the experiment kit

Unread post by cbollin » Wed Apr 06, 2011 5:30 pm

I remember shopping...

I liked getting the less expensive one from Home Science Tools. But it is nice to just have it all ahead of time no matter which level of kit you need.

happy shopping.

-crystal

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Re: General ideas for science in RTR: Astronomy

Unread post by WindDancer » Sat Apr 23, 2011 2:18 pm

Hi,

We are only on week 4 of RtR and we are loving it! I am not using the science portion as my son is in 7th grade and we are using Apologia. However, I am a FT student majoring in special education. I was doing an observation on an 8th grade science class this week and learned an interesting fact I would like to share! In 1876 Galileo discovered Jupiter. On July 12, 2011 Jupiter will have completed its FIRST rotation around the Sun since Galileo's discovery. SO, it will be Jupiter's "1st" Birthday!

My son and I plan on having a party for Jupiter on that day!

Anyway, I though it would be a fun fact to share!

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Video idea

Unread post by trinabambina » Thu Feb 09, 2012 10:45 am

I have found a great video for the Space portion of Genesis for kids [and RTR Astronomy]. It is called "Created Cosmos" (Special Edition) and it is the planetarium show from the Creation Museum. I got so tired of trying to watch evolutionary models of the locally available Space videos. Some we just had to turn off, because everything they said was bogus and others were just not interesting.

This video takes you on a tour through the Universe and did a great job of showing the kids how insignificant our planet is in the great scope of the Universe, and how much more special that makes our planet, since that is where God placed us.

I am sure that it would be available from Answers in Genesis.

I hope you enjoy it!
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RTR Astronomy - Good Viewing This Week

Unread post by schelean » Sat Feb 25, 2012 6:43 pm

Here is a website that shows night sky viewing of the Moon, Venus, Jupiter, and constellations. For us, it is right on tonight. We found the moon, Venus, and Jupiter very quickly. The sun has set here but it is still light. Stars are not visible for us yet but the planets are great! I think I originally found this website posted here or on a yahoo group. I have not checked out the rest of the sight yet. Use with caution!

http://stardate.org/nightsky
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Apologia Astronomy, RTR... 2 questions

Unread post by Amy C. » Mon Mar 05, 2012 8:50 pm

asheslawson wrote:I have my RTR for next year!! I am excited about it. I'm really looking forward to Apologia - I've been wanting to try it for a while now. I know they have notebooks that look like there are some nice accompanying activities (from the online sample). However - usually the amt of material already in the curriculum is more than enough to keep us busy. Two questions....

1.) I noticed Apologia doesn't get used until the latter portion of the year and anatomy is first - is the entire book used or does MFW select portions of this book to use?

2.) Has anybody bought the notebooks. I noticed they are on sale @ christianbook.com and just wondered if anyone used them and thought they were worth it? They look fun, but maybe just busy work and not truly necessary, especially considering I'd need 2 and even on sale they are almost $17 a piece.

Thanks for your input, ash
We are doing RTR this year and have started astronomy. Yes, the whole book is covered. I don't know much about the notebooks for sale. I have never looked at them, but I wanted to say that there is a website (along with the password) listed in the front of the Apologia book. It is a website for book extras. They have notebooking pages you can print off for free. That is what we are using.

Hope this info helps!

Amy C.

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Re: Apologia Astronomy, RTR... 2 questions

Unread post by asheslawson » Mon Mar 05, 2012 8:54 pm

Wow...I had not noticed that...just found it. Thanks Amy!
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Re: Apologia Astronomy, RTR... 2 questions

Unread post by IdahoGrown » Mon Mar 05, 2012 9:30 pm

The only Apologia notebooks I have used are the Anatomy and Anatomy JR.

They were worth every.single.cent! And now my kids have a great keepsake to look back at! They are hefty too...no whimpy skimpy journal type thing. They are LOADED...crossword puzzles, cut and paste, question and answer, coloring pages...tons of stuff!
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Re: Apologia Astronomy, RTR... 2 questions

Unread post by MelissaM » Mon Mar 05, 2012 9:54 pm

Sorry, I haven't done the notebooks, but we did do Apologia astronomy a couple of years ago, with a different curriculum. I found this mom at Homeschool Launch who has a ton of notebook/lapbook stuff to go with it: http://www.hslaunch.com/mypage/profile/745 (I hope that works.) My dd did some really great stuff from there at that time.

Now, I just have to decide if we should do astronomy again with RtR, or if we should sub out a different science. Hmmmm. Guess that's for a different thread. ;)
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Re: Apologia Astronomy, RTR... 2 questions

Unread post by Julie in MN » Mon Mar 05, 2012 10:18 pm

Just so you know, the RTR manual will instruct you on creating an astronomy notebook as you go. And since Astronomy is done in only one semester, you might not have time to complete all the extras. But I'm sure some families would enjoy them.

Fun trivia fact: Marie Hazell chose Jeanie Fulbrights Astronomy and designed the notebook assignments for RTR before Apologia took it on, and before the new Apologia notebooking journals were made :)
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Re: Apologia Astronomy, RTR... 2 questions

Unread post by s_duguid » Tue Mar 06, 2012 10:30 am

For RTR last year, I purchased both notebook journals for anatomy and astronomy (I substituted the recommended anatomy books with the Apologia Anatomy and Physiology). They are very visually appealing and do create a beautiful notebook once finished. But . . . we did have to pick and choose which pages to do in the writing sections (between note-taking, review questions, and mini-books, the same things were being written.)

The journals also give excellent suggestions for further study, reading, experiments, videos, etc.

The Apologia textbooks have a year-long schedule, but MFW chooses to do astronomy in a semester, and we squeezed Anatomy into a semester time-frame, also. Needless, to say, we ALWAYS chose to do the mini-books for the journals. My dd got burned-out doing them and I felt pressured to get as much use out of the journals to get my money's worth.

So when it came to decide what to do for botany this year in Exp_1850, we are using the online free notebooking pages. They are not quite so stunning, but they are functional.

I feel the notebook journals are definitely fun to do, if you have the extra time and money, but they did become redundant with us after a while.

Just our story.

Postby s_duguid » Sun Jun 17, 2012 5:33 pm
After talking to a lady at the CT convention, I had mentioned the link for free notebook pages for Botany and finding it on the message boards.
On the Exp-1850 facebook group, I was asked if there are free pages for the other books. Yes, there are!! So if you are doing Astronomy or maybe in co-op any of the other elementary books, you can go to the main page for Apologia Elementary science, choose your topic, click on the textbook, then click on the pdf file for "course notebook."

I'll go ahead and list the links for the main page and for astronomy.

Main page-elementary science: http://www.apologia.com/store/index.php ... ex&cPath=1

Astronomy pages: https://apologia.securesites.net/pdfs/n ... b1ed901064

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Re: Apologia Astronomy, RTR... 2 questions

Unread post by danabogan » Tue Mar 06, 2012 12:27 pm

My daughter is using the Astronomy notebook right now during RTR. She will be finished in a few months with it and has enjoyed using it very much. My daughter is 10 and is very independent. So she reads the text and is doing the journal all on her own. So what I did was start off with the Astronomy at the beginning of the year, and then next year she will read the human body books from RTR to go along with the Apologia Human Anatomy and Journal. So she will still be getting to read all the books but just in a different order. Since she will be finishing up Anatomy soon, I think I may have her just read through the Apologia Botany from Exploration to 1850 and not do all the activities/journaling. She really enjoys being able to be independent with the Astronomy and because of the notebook, she is retaining so much. It makes a wonderful keepsake also.

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Re: Apologia Astronomy, RTR... 2 questions

Unread post by MelissaB » Wed Mar 07, 2012 7:18 pm

MelissaM wrote:Now, I just have to decide if we should do astronomy again with RtR, or if we should sub out a different science. Hmmmm. Guess that's for a different thread. ;)
Same issue over here... We did Astronomy last year. Thought about replacing it with Aplg. Anatomy, which we haven't done. But the Astronomy is really fascinating, and I don't think they'll have the opportunity to study it in high school. ...
There are so many decisions to make in life, I probably will just stick with the TM and do Astronomy again. ?? :~ ??
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Re: Apologia Astronomy, RTR... 2 questions

Unread post by MelissaM » Wed Mar 07, 2012 8:33 pm

There are so many decisions to make in life, I probably will just stick with the TM and do Astronomy again.
Haha - yes, good point! My daughter very firmly told me she wanted to do astronomy again, so that decision was easy-peasy! :)
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