Given the number of high school students I personally know who have used MFW, you'll be fine. Have you ever been to a convention where MFW has some of those high school kids working in the booth?
Much of it is also in the hands of teachers/tutor and asking God to fill in the missing parts and may or may not have to do with “curriculum”.
Yes – MFW has the right tools for that. MFW is a classical program. MFW uses Story of the World (written by SWB). MFW uses many of the same ideas.
Remember that is a life time of teaching goals that SWB is talking about. It will take time and look different in various stages of learning.
Let’s break it down a bit
mlbuchina wrote:An articulate student, who knows how to get info he needs and evaluate if for its accuracy
Will using MFW’s style of classical give you opportunities to produce articulate students?
Yes – that’s through a lot of narration techniques. Now you could just let them get away with grunts and one word answers, but ask for complete sentences during narration.
Yes, that’s through a lot of the writing programs. At high school level materials with argumentative essays, you’ll be given the opportunity to refine that skill.
So – those things that are in SWB’s stuff are part of MFW.
And remember too – MFW uses Story of the World (written by Susan Wise Bauer)
You don’t have to do Latin in order to produce articulate students. But in MFW you can if you want to.
Yes – kids do research in MFW programs. (knowing how to get info he needs).
Evaluating for accuracy? Yes – because MFW doesn’t use just one source for spines, you end up having to filter out bias and look things up from time to time. Students are encouraged to see it against God’s word. One other way this is "evaluate" for accuracy -- done with logic training books too. and MFW includes that in the program
A student who at least had a handshake with the "Great Books" that he will go back and read again and again. /quote]
They’ll be given those handshakes. I don’t think anyone can guarantee that anyone will go back and read again and again. My kids do. I don’t claim that all kids will be passionate readers just because they are individuals and not cookie cutters. Even kids given the handshakes might just stay at handshake.
Great Books in MFW: Bible,
Oh yeah, there’s others too. In the back of each manual is a listing of Classical children’s literature for elementary/middle school. That’s what’s called “reading time”. Then, they’ll get some other great books in book basket. Many of those titles will also appear in SWB’s lists in her activity books.
In CTG – they’re getting Children’s Homer. They get Aesop fables. They get Old Testament to read again and again.
RTR – you even get to introduce Shakespeare.
EX1850, 1850MOD – you give them handshakes on other great readings.
High school – very great books in the program, then if you do the SAT prep book as part of English credit…. 150 great books.
It’s in there.
I have a kid who loves to read and has thrived in MFW. I have a kid who enjoys reading and likes it too.
A student with a passion in one particular area, something he knows he is good at, something he can do, learn more about, something that is his.
That’s where the Charlotte Mason part of MFW comes into play. You see, in MFW, we are given the opportunity every day to develop their interests. That’s why the schedules recommend try to be done by noon. That way you have time to devote to Productive Afternoons to develop interest and self motivation. Let them try stuff they like. Let them try new things. Do service together. Oh yeah, high school? They learn this again in service projects.
My oldest – wants to go to Russia. She knows she’s good at learning that language. She knows she is good at archery. She knows she is good at science and math. And she likes to crochet.
Middle gal – wants to go to China. She knows she’s good at art stuff, dancing, and loves nature.
Youngest – that kid has autism. I don’t know what she knows about anything. But that’s not SWB or MFW’s fault.
dhudson wrote: In the end though, if my child has a classical education that Aristotle would be proud of but lacks a spiritual foundation and doesn't have a heart bent to God's will, it will be to naught.
another comment on that..... this week in CTG, week 34, we're learning about a student of Aristotle, who was named Alexander the Great. Now, he "gained the whole world", but lost his soul. My oldest picked up on it pretty quick. We were reading how he wanted to blend cultures --- but lost his roots while doing so and took on the bad habits of the other cultures. and in the end.... he lost it all. he wasn't the king of kings or son of god that he thought he was.. We were thankful that MFW had extra scriptures to read about God's rule is without end. Maybe Aristotle should have had his student, Alexander, read the Hebrew scriptures more?
don't know why I brought that up. But my 8th grader was making some fine connections today in CTG.