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Scope & Sequence, plus comparison to group schools

Unread post by Julie - Staff » Sun Nov 23, 2008 11:41 pm

There is a Scope & Sequence link way at the very end of most pages on the website. Here is a direct link: http://www.mfwbooks.com/wps/portal/c/scope-and-sequence


The Table of Contents is a good source of additional Scope & Sequence information:

Adventures http://www.mfwbooks.com/downloads/pdfs/ ... manual.pdf
ECC http://www.mfwbooks.com/downloads/pdfs/ ... manual.pdf
CTG http://www.mfwbooks.com/downloads/pdfs/ ... ctg_TM.pdf
RTR http://www.mfwbooks.com/downloads/pdfs/ ... rtr_TM.pdf
EX1850 http://www.mfwbooks.com/downloads/pdfs/ ... exp_TM.pdf
1850MOD http://www.mfwbooks.com/downloads/pdfs/ ... mod_TM.pdf


Additional scope & sequence discussion:

MFW handouts on this topic: http://board.mfwbooks.com/viewtopic.php ... 894#p52711
Kindergarten: http://board.mfwbooks.com/viewtopic.php ... 577#p43577
1st Grade: http://board.mfwbooks.com/viewtopic.php ... 7583#p7583
ECC science: http://board.mfwbooks.com/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=2650
CTG science: http://board.mfwbooks.com/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=6763
Bible: http://board.mfwbooks.com/viewtopic.php ... 049#p47049 (post by 4Truth)
Bible: http://board.mfwbooks.com/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=4277
PLL: http://board.mfwbooks.com/viewtopic.php ... 486#p42486
ILL: http://board.mfwbooks.com/viewtopic.php ... 482#p42482
Applications of Grammar: http://board.mfwbooks.com/viewtopic.php ... 215#p63215 (scroll down to the attachment, not the original poster's detailed question)
Handwriting: http://board.mfwbooks.com/viewtopic.php ... 969#p60969
Health (for those whose state requires this): http://board.mfwbooks.com/viewtopic.php ... 978#p61976
Singapore Math: http://board.mfwbooks.com/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=4238
K/1st Math: http://board.mfwbooks.com/viewtopic.php ... 476#p45476
1st Math: http://board.mfwbooks.com/viewtopic.php ... 365#p76978
Book Basket (part of 2nd-8th grade learning): http://board.mfwbooks.com/viewtopic.php?f=30&t=2525
Language Arts: http://board.mfwbooks.com/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=1602
CD recommendation: http://board.mfwbooks.com/viewtopic.php ... 812#p36812
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cbollin

Is there a Scope & Sequence

Unread post by cbollin » Thu Dec 04, 2008 8:27 am

Is there a scope and sequence available to see what is taught at which level? One possibility in later years (or even next year if I don't get my act together) is to send them to a private Christian school. I have printed out their scope and sequence and my DH wants to make sure that they stay on track with their peers as far as content goes. He is very concerned that they will miss something along the way and get behind. It is a bit of a concern for me, as well.
A couple of things. First of all, if you stop homeschooling and send them to a public or private school, the schools will be very familiar with dealing with transfer and new students. Not all schools share the exact scope and sequence in science and social studies. So, it is not as big of a concern to them when new students enter the school. They will test and assign which reading group and writing group to put the kid. They might miss something at some point. But there will not be huge gaps and things like that. In fact, my church has an elementary school with it. Last year we attended an assembly that was about Abraham Lincoln. I was the only TEACHER who knew that there were "87" or "4 Score and 7 years" from the signing of the Declaration of Independence until the Gettysburg Address. Oh my. Those TEACHERS were embarrassed that the homeschoolers knew that.

Also, my daughters have participated in science fairs and science demos at that school. Again, that school is accredited and a good school. My daughters knew more in science than the other kids did. It was really sad in some ways that the school didn't have more hands on teaching. It was just a normal science day for my girls but for the school kids it was unusual.

so, I wouldn't worry about in terms of history, science and especially not in Bible if you use MFW. Your children will learn a lot in MFW's sequence.

In terms of math, if you use MFW's recommendations for math, your kids will do great. Reading and language arts in MFW is strong too.

Also, may I suggest to you and your dh to get a copy of a homeschool convention workshop given by MFW’s David Hazell? It is called What Should 21st Century Christians Teach Their Children?
Here is a link for ordering information
http://board.mfwbooks.com/viewtopic.php?t=3234

I also suggest that your husband consider calling MFW office and asking if he can speak with David or possibly with Bret at MFW. Sometimes it helps when men talk to men a bit.

In terms of the scope and sequence of specific programs, I’ll chime back in a few minutes to b/c this is already too long.

I’d encourage you to email or phone the MFW office and ask them to send you a copy of the overview of their programs. I’ve seen it at conventions but it is not on their website. [ http://board.mfwbooks.com/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=7898 ]

cbollin

Re: Is there a Scope & Sequence

Unread post by cbollin » Thu Dec 04, 2008 8:55 am

Julie in MN wrote:The sample for each level will give you a general idea of topics covered.
Aimee,
Julie did a great job to link you to the samples of MFW’s program. On those samples in the Table of Contents you will see a break down by week of the history, Bible and science topics. That will help a lot with the scope of sequence of the years.

I’d like to present it from the view of progression through the years:

Overview of the Scope and Sequence for Bible/Spiritual Focus

This is in another post of mine that was titled something like Does MFW help to Develop a Thirst for Christ? The overall progression through the years for Bible into the overall program:
http://board.mfwbooks.com/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=4277
http://board.mfwbooks.com/viewtopic.php ... 794#p44794

History Sequence in MFW:
They follow a classical approach and do history in cycles.

Cycle 1 is up through about grade 2. It starts in Kindy with a focus on God created the world and everything in it. 1st grade, world history is presented from Genesis to the time of the writing of the books of the New Testament. The ADV program covers from about 1000 AD with early North American explorers, then gets into an overview of US history and a tour of the 50 states.

Then they start 2nd history cycle with ECC with a foundational year in geography and cultures and current times. This is followed by 4 years of chronological history that is broken into time periods indicated by the titles of their programs.
  • (copied from their website.....) MFW’s unique and innovative multi-age curriculum begins with a one-year foundation in geography followed by four years of history presented chronologically. Beginning with Creation, world history is integrated with Biblical history. When the study of U.S. history begins, it is presented in the context of world history so that your children will understand how world events greatly impact what happens in the United States.
(3rd cycle) High school years they do more in depth with 4 years of history. It is quickest to link to the high school page for that information http://www.mfwbooks.com/highschool.html
  • (copied from that high school page) Each of the following is a one-year curriculum for 9th through 12th graders that integrates history, English, and Bible (3 full-year credits). You will need to add science, math, and electives.
    Ancient History and Literature - available now
    World History and Literature - planned for 2009
    U.S. History Part 1/Government and Literature - being developed
    U.S. History Part 2/Government and Literature (first semester) - Economics, Geography, or other course (second semester) - being developed

cbollin

Unread post by cbollin » Thu Dec 04, 2008 9:03 am

Science in the elementary years with MFW:
MFW offers science for the full year in each of its programs. At the elementary level in MFW, here are the science topics -

Until about 2nd grade or so, MFW uses a very hands on approach to science. Many age appropriate topics are covered in order to give the children a broad scope of science and exposure to many aspects of science.

Then in ECC, the science is very related to geography. You study habitats, biomes, and other things to help with seeing the world. Science correlates to the country being studies. Includes nature walks and journaling.

CTG: it is hands on science to cover many chemistry and physics topics at elementary level. You will cover topics that relate to the days of creation (such as light, rest, plants, etc.) Additional topics include pyramids when you are in Egypt, as well as some other topics that are listed on the CTG sample page in the table of contents.
http://www.mfwbooks.com/pdf/ctgsample.pdf

RTR: 1st semester is human body systems. 2nd semester is Astronomy. Nature walks and journals optional.

EX1850, 1st semester is taxonomy and classifications of living things. 2nd semester Botany. (so this is a biology year at elementary years)

1850MOD – chemistry and physics, intro to inventors and scientists. Many handson experiments. The Deluxe package includes an electricity kit and a magnet kit.

However, from 7th-12th grade, MFW suggests using Apologia Science for jr. high and high school. You can check out Apologia’s website for scope and sequence of those programs.

Aimee, from a personal side of it. My husband holds a PHD in chemistry. We really like MFW’s approach and sequence.
-crystal

cbollin

Unread post by cbollin » Thu Dec 04, 2008 11:48 am

A little bit about the language arts sequence.
This is still not the official scope and sequence that you are hoping to find about language arts.

K: In the MFW K program, students learn letter recognition, the sounds of the letters, how to write those letters, and begin to blend them together to read Consonant-Vowel-Consonant words and some common sight words. Learning to enjoy age appropriate literature is a key component to the MFW K program and is addressed in the program. The other typical things listed in state expectations are also covered. Many of them are covered in the science and character sections.
Hands-on and workbook activities are combined to teach letter names, 26 letter sounds (consonants and short vowels), sound blending, and correct handwriting. Students learn to read short vowel words; and by the end of the year, they are reading very simple stories. Children also get a lot of handwriting skills through both multi sensory and workbook approach. Children should begin to be able to copy 4-6 word sentences at the same length as the readers in the program.

1st grade: is taught with step-by-step instruction in phonics. My Father's World First Grade begins with a quick review of letter names and sounds, followed by in-depth teaching of all necessary phonics to produce an independent reader. The Teacher's Manual provides easy-to-follow daily lesson plans that teach new skills and allow for continuous review. Student worksheets reinforce phonics, spelling, and handwriting skills. By Lesson 31, students are able to read Bible stories in a special beginning level Bible Reader, which is included with the curriculum.

Other Language Arts in 1st grade:
They will learn composition skills, practice narrations. Thinking skills of language. Much composition is taught in 1st grade program.


From grades 2-6 MFW recommends resources that will continue to cover a wide variety of language arts skills, both oral and written. Reading comprehension continues as does reading for enjoyment and as a way to begin more independent learning approaches. You will have much flexibility to adjust for skill level of each child in your family as you provide individual instruction to help them.

MFW doesn’t do a “workbook” approach to language arts. MFW uses many elements of Charlotte Mason influence combined with Classical Education goals. You will find lots of oral language, dictation, narration, copywork, composition skills all throughout the elementary years.
I encourage you to read a post by Marie Hazell in which she describes much of this
http://board.mfwbooks.com/viewtopic.php?t=3240

So, each year in grades 2-6, children cover a lot of language arts in a wide variety of ways from oral to written. It doesn't have to be workbook approach. You can look on MFW's language arts page to see which specific materials are used in each grade to help achieve those goals. and keep in mind that many language arts components are included in the unit study approach.


Then in jr. high years, more in depth reading analysis and the most formal grammar instruction is finished at that time. In the elementary years, grammar is there, but not in the form of worksheet approach to circling parts of speech as that does not help with retaining the material.


Hope some of that helps to answer the scope and sequencing. Please keep asking. I didn't touch the math. I'm sure someone can link or copy Singapore's sequence or you can find that. Singapore Math is one of the strongest programs out there. I didn't touch the humanities (MFW includes music appreciation and art history and art instruction too)

I apologize for the length of my answers. But MFW is a complete curriculum from preschool through high school and it's hard to give a short answer to summarize all of those years.
-crystal
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MFW science topics?

Unread post by Julie in MN » Fri Jan 30, 2009 3:26 pm

amelasky wrote:Here's what I think I understand :)
ECC: habitats / countries
CTG: Six days of creation / physics / chemistry / biology types of experiments.
RTR: Human body and astronomy (APOLOGIA ASTRONOMY)
EX1850: Taxonomy (APOLOGIA BOTANY)
1850-MOD: Chemistry / Physics
Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 8:50 pm
Agreeing that Apologia Zoology is not scheduled in MFW. It's 3+ years, after all. I have heard of some MFW families adding in Zoology when they have time. But also wanted you to know that MFW does do an animal study in EX1850.

I would add to your description of science:

ECC: (1) habitats / countries and (2) nature walks.

CTG: (1) Six days of creation with physics / chemistry / biology types of experiments. (2) Also pyramid-related science experiments, (3) dinosaurs book, and (4) a biography of Archimedes.

RTR: (1) Human body study, (2) facts of life, (3) astronomy (APOLOGIA ASTRONOMY), and (4) a biography of Galen.

EX1850: (1) Animals/taxonomy, (2) botany (APOLOGIA BOTANY), and (3) local nature study (during study of your state).

1850-MOD: Chemistry / Physics / & more - we don't have that one yet
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Writing Strands

Unread post by 4Truth » Sun Feb 01, 2009 5:02 pm

Here's the scope & sequence for WS 3:

http://www.writingstrands.com/scope-and ... ce.asp#WS3

If you scroll down a bit, you'll find the s&s for level 4 right underneath it.
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cbollin

MFW Learning Stages

Unread post by cbollin » Thu Jul 09, 2009 6:42 am

With permission from the MFW office, here is a picture of their handout for their Stages of Learning and Scope and Sequence overview. It is available at convention, or perhaps they'd email you a pdf version of it. You can use the board features to make the picture a little larger on your screen if needed. Use the size button at the top of the right side of the screen (it's the white A with up and down arrows) Also, you can click on the image, or use the scroll bar.

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Re: Stages learning

Unread post by 4Truth » Thu Jul 09, 2009 7:54 am

Thanks for posting this, Crystal!

You can also see the chart portion of it on this page, with a brief "How this works" box underneath the chart... you have to scroll down to see it: http://www.mfwbooks.com/2-8_home.htm

I love the complete handouts, though. :)
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from homeschooling to public school

Unread post by HSmommi2mine » Wed Oct 14, 2009 10:42 am

karlafoisy wrote:At this point, we are not planning on homeschooling our kids long-term. The public school options in our rural community are not satisfactory. In wanting our kids to actually learn, we decided to homeschool for as long as my husband is a pastor in this area. I have been thoroughly enjoying the curriculum, and while we might decide to continue homeschooling (I would miss it!), we wondered if the MFW curriculum is designed in such a way that the kids could begin public schooling at any time and be on schedule as far as education goes.
If you have to go from MFW to a ps your kids would do just fine, mine did. A started ps third grade this Fall and other than math being easy after Singapore, she is doing great.

You may find that even in a "good" school district you still want to homeschool. The advantages of homeschooling go far beyond academics. Even if academics are your main goal, working one on one beats a classroom nearly every time. :-)
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More organized science?

Unread post by Julie in MN » Thu Aug 18, 2011 9:24 pm

melinrn wrote:Hi All. I'm starting CTG and I want to introduce Biology, Chemistry, Physics. Is there something better to use? Which subject should come first? I would so appreciate some input!! Thanks, Melinda
Hi Melinda,
If you stick with the MFW science, your kids will get:

Earth/Ecosystems (ECC)
General science in the order of creation (CTG)
Anatomy (RTR)
Astronomy (RTR)
Zoology (EX1850)
Botany (EX1850)
And I might call year 5 a sort-of physical science, with some physics & chemistry (1850MOD)

So if you choose to sub, you might want to know what's ahead.

I'll admit that CTG science was a hit here, since my son loved doing experiment after experiment. But I wanted to add a thought that I have this year as my son is heading into 10th grade & doing Biology. I've been watching the Biology 101 DVDs, which are by a homeschool dad, and he chose to organize his Biology videos around the days of creation, somewhat like the CTG science book does (except it's only biology). And his reasoning is that our current system of science organizes according to a taxonomy that's somewhat random. I mean, yes, whales have lungs instead of gills, so you can understand that science currently groups them with mammals. But then, grouping them with fish (as in the fifth day of creation, and God's creatures of the sea) makes just as much sense. I mean, whales don't have legs and their skin needs to stay in water and they have fins...

Anyways, I still need to teach my son the current taxonomy, but I also want him to realize that our current science categories are according to our human understanding, and God's taxonomy in each day of creation may in the end be found to make more sense :) Kinda like the way CTG science is organized differently but who knows, it's possible it could make more sense that way :) So that's just something I've enjoyed thinking about this summer.

Julie
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cbollin

Re: More organized science?

Unread post by cbollin » Thu Aug 18, 2011 10:29 pm

I really like what Julie said. .

but... I'm confused.
are you saying you'd just prefer to spend a year on each of Bio, Chem and Physics, instead of multi topics in elementary? a more of a depth over breadth approach and then repeat that same kind of thing in jr. high and then in high school?

I like the approach of General Science in elementary taking a breadth over depth, exploration approach. They'll get plenty of "one year of only one topic" in Bio, Chem, Physics, Advanced Bio, chem or Physics later in high school years when that is much easier to tolerate all year. Why not give them "more input" on topics and really let their interests develop?

You ask the question of "which subject should come first?" well, I hate to break the news to you.. but in elementary it doesn't really matter. Some phd scientists who homeschool their children say this about the goals and objectives at elementary: The principal objectives of elementary-level science should be to teach students to be curious about the world around them, to train them to observe, and to provide an introduction to the scientific method.

oh wait, that would be my dh... :)

and we liked the CTG science organization too. yes, my husband holds a phd in chemistry from one of the top 12 universities in the nation. So, is there something "better to use?" I don't know. The science in CTG introduces students to the scientific method while covering a wide variety of science topics as seen in the order of days of creation.
Well, God started with chemistry and physics (light, dark, day 1). yet, most high school science starts with Biology to let the student get more math underway.

oh well.. I'm not helping any, really. just got too science thinking. here come some tomatoes. maybe I should just talk about how the flash mob was fun tonight.


ps: I just wrote this buried in a thread on another forum and tagging it on here
"I nearly totally ruined my oldest in CTG science the first time.... "ooh... she's not a baby, why am I using this? ewwww"... so I added too much and did another program that was all about skills and this and that and whatever. half way through, my dh (who holds a phd in chemistry) tells me "this is sucking the life and joy of me and I'm a scientist. set it down" (it being the other program I added.) and then they went back to the CTG book and let him be a goofy scientist teaching from it we had a fun time. it's filled with science nerd humor and he thought it important that we not skip the stuff I said was "baby". LOL LOL"


-crystal

cbollin

Re: More organized science?

Unread post by cbollin » Sun Aug 21, 2011 6:38 am

melinrn wrote:We've done all the MFW years so far so we've done a general overview in Adventures and also animals in K and some earth science stuff in 1st. I think they should be exposed to all kids of science topics in elementary level.

I also believe science needs to be taught in a systematic way. I'm a pediatric nurse so I have a strong background in science. In Adventures I reworked the topics in the order they were taught (and changed the Jesus' names verses to go with it). I think it's less necessary to make the science a unit study.

I love MFW. The content has been fun and looks like it will continue to be. I think I just want to add to it a bit. My 8 year old wants to know what atoms and molecules are. I really like the classical approach to teaching subjects repeatedly but on deeper and deeper levels. I'd like to give my young boys details on science subjects and not just skim the top for 6 or 7 years.

I hope that makes my question a little more clear.
~Melinda
Melinda,

I think the difference might be summed up like this analogy: I'm hearing that you want a plate with protein in one section, veggies in another, carbs in another. Eat only the veggies, then move to the carbs, then move to the protein. You feel like MFW is giving you a casserole meal instead. One big glob in the middle and your food is touching. In other words, it's the same food, but just not as appealing. Nothing wrong with that.

you might like this...to read something else my phd chemist wrote about his AP Chemistry course:
http://board.mfwbooks.com/viewtopic.php ... 227#p56227
LOL

Since it sounds to me you are looking for support or permission to sub it out..... Don't worry about it. When I first did CTG science, I was a snob about it. Nearly killed the love of science in my child and my husband told me to stop using the book. So, be careful not to over add or sub out? dont' make the mistakes I made. ok? Don't take away some of the fun.

If you prefer to use XYZ program because it meets your goals and preferences then use it.

How did it go in ECC science?
or the biology/botany in 1st? Did you notice that each year when new topics are discussed, it gets more in depth? Have you seen that aspect of it? It's like the science follows those "cycles of learns" or stages of learning. Not all classical educators agree that there is only one way to approach science topics. I've never quite understood this concept of one only topic in science in elementary a year. LOL. I want them to enjoy science more like a buffet. And I have the freedom to do that because I know in 7th-12th it will be different. And so far, it is is really working well for us, especially my middle child who has only done science from mfw stuff. She's fine in Apologia General. totally amazes me. and my oldest is science thinker mixed with a desire to do digital media arts. \ Melinda, in elementary it doesn't have to be the same methods as high school or college courses.

In Jr. High and high, I think the systematic way of it will make you happier, but I don't guarantee that that publisher's very systematic method will be what you would do? It is most definitely NOT unit study at all. textbook.

basically as the coffee finishes over here...
You have goals and preferences how it should be done
so switch the science out for the rest of elementary and see how it goes.
then consider in jr. high to re-examine if you want to use Apologia Jr. High/High or not.

-crystal

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Re: More organized science?

Unread post by melinrn » Sun Aug 21, 2011 3:39 pm

Thanks again Crystal, for the thoughtful reply. Just want to clarify that I don't think MFW is babyish at all. It's not the content, it's the organization. The dinner plate analogy was a good one. And my kids hate eating stuff all mixed together. Lol. But seriously, science topics overlap and I'm fine with that. It's just hard for me to see what science we cover when it's in "casserole" form.
~Melinda
2 sons, 6 and 8
We've done K, 1st, Adventures (NOT in that order, lol), ECC and now CTG

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Common Core??

Unread post by Bret Welshymer » Tue Sep 10, 2013 11:50 am

cinmor wrote:Hi everyone!!
Certainly not trying to start a debate or argument or anything, but I am wondering if anyone (admin??) knows if My Father's World plans on remaining NON-common core, including their recommendations for other subjects (math/english/spelling/etc.). As of right now everything we are using seems fine.
Blessings!!
Cindy
Our first commitment will always be to provide curriculum that teaches from a Biblical worldview and helps to prepare students to live for God’s glory. We have not made any changes to meet Common Core Standards and do not have any current plans to make changes to meet CCS. A good number of books in general, including some that we carry, have likely met some of these standards previously. They are just good books with great information that happen to meet a standard.

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Re: Common Core??

Unread post by MelissaB » Tue Sep 10, 2013 10:46 pm

Because CC has a focus on writing and reading comprehension, I think MFW students may be ahead of the game.
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Re: Common Core??

Unread post by cinmor » Wed Sep 11, 2013 12:14 pm

Awesome! Thanks so much for the response!! We LOVE using My Father's World!!
Blessings!!
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Joseph Age (18 mos)
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Singapore Math and Common Core

Unread post by Julie in MN » Tue Sep 09, 2014 8:37 pm

smithrr wrote:I have been seeing opposition regarding Common Core's Math teaching method. I see that it is very similar to Singapore method (grouping 10's for example for addition). Are they similar?

I am trying to get an understanding on how homeschool kids might be impacted down the road when it comes to SAT and ACT testing in the future.
Hi Rachel,
MFW has posted a statement about Common Core here, if that helps:
http://board.mfwbooks.com/viewtopic.php ... 457#p96442

MFW uses Singapore Primary to create solid math understanding, rather than to meet any testing requirements. Doing those math facts as well are a great help, and my son continued various math drill through about 7th grade.

The ACT and SAT will test upper math, rather than Singapore Primary skills. But the solid math understanding developed in Singapore Primary helps students move into junior and senior high math with good skills on board, even when transitioning to very different programs (such as Saxon and Jacobs Geometry), so I would assume the transition to any new ACT/SAT test questions won't be affected, either.

I like that Singapore Primary is not an American math program. International achievement scores (TIMSS, given to 4th and 8th graders every 4 years) put Singapore students 1st or 2nd, while American students are scoring 10th-11th.

Hope that helps. Maybe someone who has read through all the Common Core information will chime in, as well.
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Re: Singapore Math and Common Core

Unread post by TriciaMR » Fri Sep 12, 2014 5:23 pm

The method is similar to what they are teaching in Common Core. However, Common Core *requires* kids to use the method. Singapore just shows several ways to *think* about the problems, and then the child can choose whichever way makes the most sense to him. Breaking down by 10s is helpful for larger problems, but not easy math facts (which is another problem with the way CC is being implemented).

Also, the Singapore MFW recommends is NOT CC aligned.
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Is MFW Common Core aligned or not?

Unread post by MFW-Lucy » Thu Apr 09, 2015 11:41 am

Tracey in ME wrote:Please, someone extremely experienced or employed by them answer me. Thanks!
Hi Tracey,

Our first commitment will always be to provide curriculum that teaches from a Biblical worldview and helps to prepare students to live for God’s glory. We have not made any changes to meet Common Core Standards (CCS) and do not have any current plans to make changes to meet CCS, so any alignment is coincidental. A number of books in general, including some that we carry, have likely met some of the Common Core Standards before these standards were developed and released. These are just good books with great information that happen to have already met a standard.

If you have more questions, please let us know or call our office at 573-202-2000.

Blessings,
Lucy

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